tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8855848782995184847.post3332675371170968653..comments2023-10-24T09:08:05.930-06:00Comments on Old Firehouse Books Blog: Polygamy Review! by KaraKelseyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08960802558132837527noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8855848782995184847.post-33557086823912975752009-03-17T08:38:00.000-06:002009-03-17T08:38:00.000-06:00I was one of the first people to point out the bon...I was one of the first people to point out the bone breaking statistics, were just boilerplate smears of CPS. They expected to find a certain amount of broken bones, so they simply asserted they had, and implied strongly, that it was due to abuse.<BR/><BR/>I was simply trying to appear as neutral as possible. I think a young girls at YFZ was more likely to lead a life of true Chastity than in most other areas of the country. I think we should have left them alone.Hugh McBrydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16926516260588481185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8855848782995184847.post-12414677416665296852009-03-02T10:46:00.000-07:002009-03-02T10:46:00.000-07:00Pharisee, the purported facts you're citing, such ...Pharisee, the purported facts you're citing, such as teen pregnancy and bone breakage, may not even exist. From what you've written, they're just your beliefs, not actual facts.<BR/><BR/>For instance, you say statistically, the women who wrote the books about the FLDS community do not reflect the community as a whole. All right. What statistics?<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, there is no possible correlation you can draw between a teenage girl getting pregnant or bone breakage and cases of physical or worse, mental abuse. None.<BR/><BR/>As to your last point, well, arguably the holocaust benefited the world as a whole. People have made and argued such a thing. But I hope we can both agree that there are no facts supporting such a preposterous and vile act, and until you can produce any verifiable, non-biased, non-credulous evidence supporting the benefits of an FLDS community, most people, including myself, are going to continue to view it as a blight.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06723859307631796630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8855848782995184847.post-20441069840194479302009-03-01T23:05:00.000-07:002009-03-01T23:05:00.000-07:00Unfortunately, people hurt people, polygamous or o...Unfortunately, people hurt people, polygamous or otherwise. Statistically though, the complaints of the women who wrote these books, real though they may be, are not borne out in the FLDS community in general.<BR/><BR/>I believe if you check into it, there were less instances of teen pregnancy at young ages at YFZ than for the average Texas teenage girl. Less instances of bone breakage among children. A lot less.<BR/><BR/>Arguably, polygamy is good for the relative health of it's participants.Hugh McBrydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16926516260588481185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8855848782995184847.post-79252796786581789642009-02-28T10:12:00.000-07:002009-02-28T10:12:00.000-07:00Holy cow! People are commenting on my post! Great...Holy cow! People are commenting on my post! Great!<BR/>I think the fascinating thing about each of these women's stories is that they were hurt. Some in terrible ways. No, that is not the entire community behind polygamy. There are hundreds of happy women, children and men. Sometimes it really seems to work, but sometimes it doesn't, as in the case with each of these women and even women they include in their stories. I would love to be able to really know more about the lives of women who are happy in this lifestyle. It fascinates me. <BR/>I know that a number of the authors feel very strongly about ending polygamy. They work as activists and leaders in bringing things into public awareness. <BR/>I don't know the whole truth around this issue because there is not a ton of information coming from the other side. Mostly this review was a sum up of each book that I have read on the topic, I simply wrote about what was already written in each book. <BR/>Thanks for all the comments!karaofmuchknowledgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13396631094056183834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8855848782995184847.post-43950218517249031562009-02-28T07:33:00.000-07:002009-02-28T07:33:00.000-07:00WOW!I see that your reading has begun to shape you...WOW!<BR/>I see that your reading has begun to shape your opinion...you state things not as someone doing a critique, rather, you say things as though they are true...and not just the opinion of the writers...<BR/>These are women who are angry....and anger spurs all sorts of things..<BR/>perhaps, before deciding on their veracity, you might spend some time searching for the truth in more objective ways...either that, or make a conscious effort to not spread rumor, inuendo, and lies, because real people get hurt when an entire country buys into the lies.....<BR/>These women were hurt, and they were angry, and their publishers saw what sells, plays to the desire to read the salacious, in so many of us....and dollar signs all the way to their banks....rericsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03640480060825781159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8855848782995184847.post-42708503141437204412009-02-27T12:43:00.000-07:002009-02-27T12:43:00.000-07:00Uh, Kara didn't draw any conclusions from her revi...Uh, Kara didn't draw any conclusions from her reviews. She summarized four first-hand accounts of women who suffered tremendous physical and psychological abuse and one fictional account based upon facts gleaned from a firsthand document.<BR/><BR/>The argument on your blog suffers from the <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_fallacy" REL="nofollow"> Ecological Fallacy </A>: you can't argue that your own experiences are those experienced by FLDS women as a whole. <BR/><BR/>Don't get me wrong, I think that's wonderful you're a part of a loving family like you described, but several other sources around you paint the experiences of others much differently.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06723859307631796630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8855848782995184847.post-83309713417708908792009-02-26T14:35:00.000-07:002009-02-26T14:35:00.000-07:00I think it is normal to draw the conclusions that ...I think it is normal to draw the conclusions that you do, but you might try reading this post over at the blog, "<A HREF="http://terramama.blogspot.com/2009/02/flds-women.html" REL="nofollow">Just Ducky</A>."<BR/><BR/>Rericson is hardly what I would call a wacked out religious cultist.Hugh McBrydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16926516260588481185noreply@blogger.com